War3:Source

So you are new to WarCraft for Source/GO.

Let me give you one very large, very simple, very effective tip.

DO NOT PAY FOR SUPPORT

It is simple.  This mod is extensive.  The upgrades, races, pretty much everything requires understanding how to run a server instance and a basic knowledge of coding.  When you pay for someone to help you setup/run your server you are doing two things.

1.  Removing your ability to learn, and ensuring your community will fail.  (I own the highest ranked community for WarCraft in CS:S and CS:GO and I give away code all the time when asked.)

2.  Paying for sub-par or novice code.  In the real world I bill at 2$/minute to code and I am an intermediate.  If someone is charging you $25-$200 to do something, they are not someone you want to pay.  The old saying "You get what you pay for" is paramount in this case.  You are paying a novice coder who most likely has no real clue about what optimization or efficiency are in code. 

What is my point in all this?

You have a forum that is lurked by substantially skilled coders who are open to your questions most of the time.   They work with you and help you learn how to maintain and create your own communities.  Communities are what make WarCraft thrive.  Competition among servers for new creative content drives players to the mod.  So use this resource, not some payed llama that is a sub-par coder, at best. 

Again, its your money at the end of the day, but would you rather spend it on a server rental or paying someone who really only has a basic clue when we are here to do it for free.

do you have your war3source fork? ur server is not on the ownageclan stats pages

i also hope ur not here to start a fight with el diablo

This is just recent within the past few days, Ownz.

I'm getting attacked lately by a crew of people whom don't want to see me make Anti-Hack.   They're attacking me from different forums across the globe.  The Cheat / Hacking Software companies don't want new competition and I'm starting to see them attack again. :/

They are trying to ruin my reputation.

I've re-opened my thread again: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=248816

 had stopped awhile back... and the harassment stopped along with it.   But now I started back programming that again, and the harassment is starting again.. Life is just funny that way.

Quote from: El Diablo on February 09, 2015, 02:05:32 AM

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I'm glad my code is coming in handy lol even tho I can't remember it was crashing clients in CS:S back in the day.

I'm sorry, I'll add in a comment that states that is your code.  I do have other areas of code where I give you credit.  I just must have forgotten this part.

I guess i'll need to test to see if it crashes csgo / css.

I think the crashing will be only for TF2, or until I can figure out other ways to crash clients via sourcemod for css and csgo.

www.wcs-lagerhaus.de is no longer valid.. what would you like me to add?

The develop branch as been updated .. as soon as I get the dev branch up to speed, i'll push it to master when its stable and your credits will follow.

it appears joshtrav deleted a reply

I wanted to wait to see what other feedback was given before making one.

I have a custom coded WarCraft server, porting the use of SM with an extension to Python 3.1.3.  That is where the heart of my server runs.  However, I use whatever I can find when it comes to ideas for content, including these forums.  I also have a chunk of War3Source and the old warcraft-source admins in my contact list, and I often provide them with help when they need it.

My point was to the point in the initial thread.  I find it rather shameful that he is using whatever chance he can to push off the idea of donating to him for code.  I noted his post on the war3source for his Anti-Hack mod about 3 months ago.  I didn't care about it then nor do I now.  I think he ruins his own reputation, personally.

That being said, it was not to start a fight.  People come to a dev site for help.  They don't come to have someone - namely someone who didn't create the mod nor maintain it - push the idea of them paying them to help.  What is the point of an opensource dev site if that happens.  My server currently has more than enough subscribers to pay the bills, so don't equate this to some sort of jealousy either, as per his previous posts I suspect that is where he would go next.

In the end, it is your mod branch, your forums.  If you dislike the post you can delete, rather simple to be honest.  As I said before, I am also more than willing to help people when they need it.  I have done so for years and will continue to, free of charge.

I got into the development of WarCraft almost 10 years ago and I have always disliked the idea of people who try to use it as a way to make money.  See Holliday, Teacher Creature, or Koshy for examples.  Not to sound hypocritical, as I said I do have a subscription feature on my servers, but it is a fraction of what others charge and it funds the server and keeps the content feasible.

Anyway, I will be here to answer the PMs I get, as I have in the past.  If you prefer your boards are riddled with pushy offers for paid support, I will refrain from making anymore posts.

joshtrav, you must have it made.   Some of us don't have jobs or just are in such a situation in life that getting a job is not possible.   I have my reasons why I offer my services for money, and I'm sure if you was in my situation you would too.  You would use every resource you had to keep going.  I bet you have never lost anything before.  I've bet you haven't never had to live outside in the weather, or live in a tent.

Don't knock someone down that has already fallen, or maybe that is they way you do things?

joshtrav, you just don't have any compassion at all.   You need to learn to have some compassion for those whom struggle in life.  Did you not ever think that someone like me is struggling to just make it?  You know that if I was a programmer for a big company, there would be no reason to ask for money for services.

I originally started here, I had a job.   I lost a job, and for a long while was searching for one.   I could never find it, and lost a lot of things.   I'm right now working freelance on any project I can get my hands on just to make it.

joshtrav, your one of the type of people that disgusts me with your righteousness behaviors.  You think your better than everyone else and everyone else has to live up to your standards because you've never truly ever had it hard in life.

Maybe one day your higher power will show you what hard times really means, and then your eyes will open and you will see the suffering around you.

I'm pretty sure this probably makes no sense to you, and you only read what you want to hear.   But for those whom understand me, they know where I'm coming from.

You haven't been on War3Source.com for as long as I have.   I've contributed to War3Source for no cost while I had it easy.   I've helped people for free, while I had it easy.   Now I have to swallow my pride and take money where it comes.

You response baffles me to be honest.

You assume I have it made because I think that pushing monetary requests off on people with no real clue of how or what the software does on a website that isn't your own?  That makes no sense to me. 

Knock you down?  I am not the one who proclaims to be a professional coder in every post he can.  It seems like you are trying a lot harder to put yourself up there.

I don't contribute to the repo, good on you for doing so.  However, I have also seen you push your own wants over that of the dev community here on occasion - see offered levels for folks to register and vote for your idea...

Righteous behaviors?  I work hard, do what I need to for my family and respect other people's property.  That is not righteous, it is called good manners.  As I read your posts you are literally trying to push individuals into paying you.  Making tasks sound almost impossible to do without your help, etc.  You don't think that is a bit much?  You don't feel like you might be a little too self-entitled in your programming skills?

I have read every word you wrote, btw.  Twice.  Just to try and understand how you think this qualifies you to do what you do.  If you need money, and your coding skills are even a fraction of what you portray them to be, go on freelancer.com, or another coding freelance site and put out some bids.  You seem to have the free time to do so and I am sure you will convince someone to pay you there, at a forum designed for just that.

In the meantime, I won't change my stance on the idea that I think what you are doing here is wrong and rude.  I feel for your circumstances at home, or wherever you are at.  I assume home since you frequent your servers and have an online connection, not in a tent or outside.

I am fairly certain I am older than you and with that being said I can also said I have my fair-share of situations where I struggled to make it.  In those times I looked for employment by those offering, made bids on coding projects across the country, locally at businesses, etc. 

As far as helping out, I think that is cool.  I have been helping server owners for almost 10 years on this type of mod.  I find it fun, and feel that the more people who have servers like this the more players are subjected to it, ultimately increasing the player base for all server owners. 

If I disgust you because I have manners, and chose to look for work in the right places, not the wrong ones, I apologize.  Maybe this is part of the reason you are having such an issue.  Etiquette goes a very long way in the development sector.  Agile programming life cycles require daily interaction with customers and stakeholders and letting someone know how they disgust you for a difference of opinion is not going to get you far.

Good luck, and if you need a list of other sites that offer bidding services for coders, let me know in a PM.  There are a few dozen or so readily available that require no certifications.