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La Muerte

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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2011, 04:51:01 AM »
Every plugin you add to your server makes your servers performance go down a little.
So adding (loaded) un-needed plugins is not advised. However the only way to know for sure is to try it. I personally prefer sourcebans + hlstatsx way over mani admin, but then you do need an external web host so mani is a rather good option until you can afford a web host.


$Diablo$

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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2011, 05:04:38 AM »
But have you tried to run them both? And did Mani admin block sourcemod pluggings ? Or other way around?
« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 05:06:56 AM by $Diablo$ »

La Muerte

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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2011, 05:34:08 AM »
I used to run both, in past it was not a problem for me. I'm unaware if things have changed or not.

$Diablo$

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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2011, 05:38:47 AM »
Ok well I quess I will give a try, should I install it a normal way or it got some tricks to connect sourcemod with mani admin?

Kamiqawa

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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2011, 06:17:29 AM »
Hi,

Yes, La Muerte is right. Using Mani and Sourcemod same time will not block anything, but more plugins means more stress on your server. So if you don't need mani admin, you shouldn't get it.

But if you like it and want to install it, you can do that exactly the same way as without SM or MM. We also run Mani and SM on our server currently, and it doesn't cause any extra lag.

Still, if you have both, SM and Mani running with default/full settings, then you might have one problem with some commands. And with problem I mean that many admin commands will multiply when you activate them. So, for example, if you talk with default admin chat (in chat with @ say) you can get two messages, one from Mani admin and one from Sourcemod. Also some votes, like rock the vote (if plugin loaded from SM) will cause both admin plugins to answer.
So to avoid this, you can a) edit mani admin plugin (cfg/mani_server.cfg) or b) (which I prefer) unload all SM plugins with command "sm plugins unload_all" (without " ") (you could put this to your autoexec.cfg), then load needed plugins (wcs_effects.smx?) with command sm plugins load pluginname.smx (for example sm plugins load wcs_effects.smx). Just put that AFTER the sm plugins unload_all command in autoexec.cfg. You can find all the SM plugins in cstrike/addons/sourcemod/plugins and the autoexec.cfg in cstrike/cfg.


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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2011, 02:53:31 PM »
Well, i always recommend to use mani admin, cuz it can ban/kick/mute players, which WCS Admin cant. So I think that Mani Admin is pretty important. Well In my opinion i think WCS Admin should get the Ban/Kick/Mue options. That would be smart.

La Muerte

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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2011, 05:04:53 PM »
Low Pwner, since wcs requires SourceMod for effects anyway, people can just use sourcemod admin, which is just as easy and less exploitable as mani admin.

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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2011, 06:12:15 PM »
Low Pwner, since wcs requires SourceMod for effects anyway, people can just use sourcemod admin, which is just as easy and less exploitable as mani admin.
Please explain why Mani is sooo much exploitable then SM? All the rcon hacks and stuff related to executing rcon commands has been fixed since OB update(as I have been told by some server security enthusiasts). Also if you are talking about overwriting the mani clients file, THAT CAN EASILY HAPPEN WITH SM AS WELL. I can even provide a python script that protects it that I found on the ES forums if need-be. So for the final time, STOP SAYING MANI ISN'T AS EXPLOITABLE AS SM. Btw <3 mani ftw!

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Jhonam

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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2011, 06:58:03 PM »
Well, i always recommend to use mani admin, cuz it can ban/kick/mute players, which WCS Admin cant. So I think that Mani Admin is pretty important. Well In my opinion i think WCS Admin should get the Ban/Kick/Mue options. That would be smart.

https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=99300&highlight=Advanced+Command



$Diablo$

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Re: [Guide] how to manage servers.
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2011, 07:29:20 PM »
i need mani admin just for custom sounds and skins for some reason when i add custom sounds to sourcemod it make ppl download them every time when they join my server even when they already got them


 


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